It also seems clear that time is not definable unless space is included: the universe is a fabric sort of definable as a rubber sheet whereby our mass (material) in life deforms the fabric (be that mass us or the Earth or an infinite mass…a black hole).

But allow me to go in another direction!

In that we are complainers of time for a reason: We complain that time is too long when we are young and too short when we are old. We try to save time, borrow time, kill time, make time, cut time and etc ad nausium. We also wear time (wristwatch), make a history (whereby we want to learn from past mistakes but regret that we all too often do not succeed), and plan a calendar (filling it up but often in vain).

We complain about time because we are foreign to this physical world: whereas an astronaut gets inside his space suit to experience an EVA mission, we are spirits put inside an earthsuit (body) to experience the physical world and to accomplish a mission here in recognizing the design and specialality that is this planet, universe, and life.

Now is this going to jump into Bible verses and God and Christianity? Well, it could…because there are verses in the Bible that smack enough to where science and philosophy are pointing…and if that bothers you then good and if it does not bother you then…get bothered!

Why is it that no matter what we do or get or desire it is never enough and we always want more? I assure you…that, that which makes you, you and not me is not going to be able to take it all with you when you leave your earthsuit (body). What if, when we step through deaths door there is just existence without the need of an earthsuit (body) because we will then not longer be in dimension to experience only the four dimensions but be beyond them?

Scientists state via the WMAP satellite that the Big-Bang is basically fact—there was a beginning to time-space, matter, and energy. And, let me so bold as to add in ‘Intelligence’ (yes that is with a capital “I”). What if we are more than just Darwnian ‘meat’ robots but that we are timeless spirits on a mission of exploration (aren’t we all insatiably curious?) to explore and to then relate to this intelligence?

Time certainly is weird and it has been related to entropy (the decay of energy potential into an even quantity…a heat death). Without that second law of thermodynamics we would last forever here (well, until the planet failed to support us) and frankly, we would not be happy about that either. Life is work! Life is interesting!! Life is Pain!!! Life is Love. We are complicated creatures to the point to which we should look like creatures from a far off distant galaxy from the ‘eyes’ of every other creature here on this planet. Frankly, we do not fit here! When animals sleep they just replenish their biological strength but when we sleep we do that plus we understand (know) that we are disconnected from the experience of reality around us…we are out of time…we are in a dreamlike state…we are totally defenseless/vulnerable. We should not like that if Darwinianism is all we have to fall back on for our ‘existence’!?

I could go on… gordonta@comcast.net

Time is the presence of motion and forces. Time is due to expansion of space. Time is slow where expansion of space is slow like around large masses. As total motion and forces within a mass is a constant therefore when linear motion is increased then internal motion as well forces within that object slow which is then percieved as slowing of time.

This is a circular argument. You can not define Time in terms of motion as motion is defined with time. According to the laws of physics motion is a displacement in space over time. so what you would be saying is that Time is a displacement is space over time. Time may be viewed as change. Or Perhaps there is no such thing as time, or atleast a time universal. Perhaps time only exists in the subconsiousness of life in order to explain decay and change. It could be that to the Universe (or God for those who are religious) the time it takes to get from point A to point B is trivial. If a mass moves from point A to point B in a day, it would hold the same change value as if it had taken a week. It would still have covered the same distance. And to a universe, or a God, to whom are not a slave to time, the duration or length of “time” the mass took to move would not be an issue. It is however an issue to us. We are not immortal. We have a concept of time becuase we are not eternal. We try to fit as much as possible into our lives. And with the greed and expectancies of life we are confined to measure our non-eternalness. We can thus see time pass but are incapable of explaining it. Touching on an old but favorable paradox: If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, did the tree ever really fall. Well according to physics the answer is indubitably yes, but existentially if went by unappreciated then what does it matter. If you were wipe all things that are slaved to time, such as all life, time would exist unappreciated and therefore it wouldnt really exist.