New PageRank Export
Ok a new export on the April 28th 2007 with data taken from April 2nd 2007.
New count:
PR6 sites: 2
PR5 sites: 13
PR4 sites: 29
PR3 or less: 66
Conclusion: On average I lost a lot and think that generally most web sites on the internet went down in PR.
There has been a new PageRank export recently and I just counted for the records:
PR6 sites: 2
PR5 sites: 20
PR4 sites: 46
PR3 or less (not updated): 17
Conclusion: I lost a few PR6 but got many more PR4’s. jimwestergren.com has several internal pages being PR6 so I feel the PR7 is close. I want it PR7 in the next update.
Another good news is that most of the mini-articles in my Smart Link Building service got PR4 and the rest PR3.
Tools to check PageRank on different DCs: Dig PageRank and Raketforskning
Below post is from: September 29, 2006:
Today (September 29, 2006) there is a new PR export being done by Google.
This update seem to be good and not bogus like we have seen earlier …
The PR export data seem to be a month old or something, it is not totally recent. I will check this tomorrow for exact date.
I got 5 new PR6 which is nice but I lost one PR6 but that I knew already.
3 new PR5 and about 15 new PR4 from PR0.
Total count and bragging:
PR6 sites: 5
PR5 sites: 15
PR4 sites: 24
PR3 or less (not updated): 10
Quote from the forum:
Guys, I dont understand one thing, most people say PR is of no use and yet we get so excited about PR updates
The ones saying that “PR is of no use” doesn’t know SEO.
Real beginners only thinks about PR and is obsessed about it.
The ones that learn more learn that “it is of no importance”.
The real masters knows what it is, how it works and uses it together with many other measurements and tools.
PR is one of many tools we have in SEO, it is important to understand it. It is important to understand that for example this update is coming from July 21-24, 2006 which is very long back. This means that any links after this date is not measured in this update. What you see now is the PR that was registered on the July 21-24, 2006. It is also important to understand that this is the first update since bigdaddy in which pre-bigdaddy sites got their home page PR updated (almost fully sure on this).
The previous update was exported on July 15, 2006 and the data was taken from 9-11 juni 2006 but did not affect pre-bigdaddy home pages (almost fully sure).
PR is vital if you work with any of the following: Link-vault, selling sites, selling links, exchanging links.
But I can tell you that I look more on backlinks then PR. The toolbar PR is always very old and if you are skilled you can estimate the live PR with 90% correctness by checking and looking at backlinks for 1 minute, I have done it thousands of times.
PR is just a tool and not a thing in itself, you have to learn how to use it. There are many other areas in SEO which is probably much more important: trust and relevancy are two such things. One very useful way to use this tool is to see the PR of your internal pages. You learn about PR flow and can see why certain pages ger higher PR than others, which ones got more external links than others, which link baits worked better than others etc. etc.
And yes, I know what I talk about.
EDIT:
Congrats to Chris for his new PR7s, he deserves it!
Dates for the ones interested:
September 29, 2006
PR export with data coming from July 21-24, 2006
July 15, 2006
PR export with data coming from June 9-11, 2006
I have much more notes and details but it is a mess and I have not time to write it now.
Below is from: March 15th, 2006:
The green bar was updated a while ago and I now have 2 PR6, 12 PR5, 9 PR4 & 5 PR3 of the 27 web sites.
The reason for the home page of this site being 4 and not 6 when the interal pages are PR 4-5 and one even 6 is becuase of a confusion with Google as I changed the site and Google thought it moved … well, well. Doesn’t matter so much as it doesn’t reflect on the SERPs.
For those interested in PageRank, you have to read my article about the Internal PR and the RK values.
Let’s see what I get on the next update.
Jim Westergren is a company owner from Sweden who lives together with his wife and son. Some of his interests are SEO, web development, writing and
are you sure page rank updating is completed for now? can i say now allthelink.com have PR6?
Thanks
Shabu anower
http://www.allthelink.com
Yes:
http://livepr.raketforskning.com/?u=www.allthelink.com
You had the same luck as http://www.emoblue.info and mine http://www.directorydelta.com all phpLDs that went (unjustified) from PR 0 to 6.
Hmmm.
Oh my you two have good luck, i had live pagerank of 6 and pr3 already and now live pr has dropped to 4 and still pr is 3 and before it was predicted to be 5 now its predicted to be 4. Any way i can increase the rank somehow or get more traffic using some directories?
Hi,
Well. To get higher PR you have to get more backlinks. I don’t think the ones from the comments counts anything as it is nofollow but I might change that later.
Perhaps you can buy some links or do some link exchanges. But the way that I recommend is by reading this post:
http://www.jimwestergren.com/link-bait/
Hi Jim, my two directories both got PR4. They are just some monts old. http://www.norlinks.com PR4 + http://www.link-directory.us PR4
Ha en fin dag Jim
Stig
If you want a higer PR you need 1-3 backlinks from same sites as yours. Ex. if you want PR4 you need B.L from PR5. Thats what I did…
Stig
Jim,
Also congrats to Jeff of aviva directory. He got PR7 too! Isn’t he deserve for that?
Congrats to you too! you have a nice collection dude
Thanks Manish.
Yes, also congrats to Jeff. Just that I know Chris more and he has been building links like crazy but had to wait over half a year before finally getting a decent PR due to the earlier stupid updates.
Yes, He alive must be PR 8 directory after half year, he built PR so quickly,
One more strange >> http://livepr.raketforskning.com/?u=www.jimwestergren.com%2Fpagerank-was-updated
this page showing PR 4?
Yep, hehe. Because it was written on an an earlier update on March 21, 2006. I just changed the text and the time stamp to get this post at the top again. No need to have a new blog post for each update, better to get this one to the top each time.
Nice done! Just change the date and the text, it was smart!
Yes, it is smart because you get the backlinks on 1 post instead of many. You concentrate the search ranking on 1 post instead of spreading it on many. The same is with articles: much better to write one big article that you revise 10 times then to have 10 smaller articles.
i bought a lot of backlink but my site still pr 0 i will waiting next update
hope to get PR6 someday
hi, is jimwestergren.com is PR 4 or PR 6 now ? i check on http://livepr.raketforskning.com/?u=www.jimwestergren.com%2F found both PR 4 and PR 6 appear on different data centres….
When is Pagerank updated. It Google dances all week long. My websiden goes from PR0 to PR3 and back again. At work it shows PR3 and at home it shows PR0. Yeah I know its different datacenters, but when will it stop dancing?
It is now PR6 but I am working for a 7.
This update is a bit special. It will take a month or so to finish the update. For more info on why, you should read this post. Specifically this quote:
I wonder when the next pr update will be… now considering that it is almost November..
This update has been probably one of the longest to this date, close to 2 months now going and there are still 3-4 data centers that have not updated their index.
Right!
The PR got no importance for an E-commerce site or a product site where as the number of backlink and traffic matters.
The trend is changing now, People are getting aware and now the site owners want more traffic instead of higher PR.
Any thoughts?
I`m not sure of that. I have less traffic but higher PR. I went from P3 to a PR4
Well …
It’s not so much about PR anymore, it’s about TRUST.
An old very trusted domain almost always does better then a new one – no matter the PR.
This is very good Well done Jim. Sad about the google no follow though.
Hi Jim,
Most of us have the google bar. Does the G-bar has something to do with the algorithme PR?
If we dont get a backlink will a “add to a favorites” count some sort of way in the algo? Its a link? The G-bar sends info back home (?) Everyday I get several new Add to faborites, same as you do
What`s your opinion?
Stig – Norge
Excellent work Jim, I have been following you blog ever since the V7ndotcom elursebmem SEO contest. I am the webmaster of my forum http://www.360Nigeria.com and I must say that some of the things I do on my sites are inspired by your work here.
Keep up the great work
Pagerank is a very important factor in getting good ranking in the search results of Google. One of my website was ranking 37 with PR0. It got a pagerank of PR3 on 11th january2007 and next day I checked the search results on the same keyword then it was ranking 5th in the result. Now a days it ranks 3rd.
Wow! @@” You got so many websites.. I can barely keep up with 2 of mine @@”.. I got 1 PR4 and 1PR2.. hmm
how do you manage so many! esp u will need to update each.. unless you automate it hmmmmm…
Thanks.
I have a huge excel file with all info and the 250 domain names. Most of the sites do not require maintaince work but I do have quite many that does. The key is using checklists, excel and weekly routine lists.
Great work Jim!
ic
Good info Jim! And great work! 
Congrats on your success!
I hope you get PR 7. I linked you on several of my category pages. Maybe it’ll help push you over. I was PR 6 but it just dropped to 5. I’ll need to research that. Good luck! Mike
In the last PR update our website PR has improved a lot. Our website PR has jumped from PR4 to PR6 and few internal pages have got PR7.
Regards,
James A.
http://www.webhosting.uk.com
Hi Jim,
as i observing since a long time, most of your internal pages got PR5, we have the same directory using phpld, you are great. we are trying much to get good PR with your tips. hope we get good PR by next update we hope.
I took a hit as well and saw a significant decrease in link sale revenues. I suppose if you live by PR, you have to be prepared to die by it. Luckily, I saw this coming and was able to model my business to be less dependent on PR.
I been working super hard to get the back links for http://www.ftavip.com and now i have over 15 000 backlinks but they are all PR 0 webpages and some links are PHP (stuff like buy 5000 links for 10$ a month bla bla) duno if that is going to help for PR but it helped for keyword ranking.
Is the PHP link excange program a smart thing to do or waste of money?
Thank-you
Mark Schnider
http://www.ftavip.com
congratulations!
my forum ( http://www.anarsist.org ) is only pr 2 :/
Still waiting for the new pagerank update :/
Great article. I’m waiting for my next update of the pr.
Good Article! But I really couldn’t figure out the exact basis which google uses to build PR.
Thanks for article.I think new updates will come in this month.
Here comes the latest PR update which is on Oct 4th 2007
i have seen changes in my PR and its is true to say that the google system is now updating, at http://www.googlebugs.com there are results and stats that show this has happened.
thanks
aks
Finally a new PR update but my 2 link directories did not get any new numbers. Both has PR3. My link partner went from PR0 to PR3. I`m happy for that. Several famous link directories dropped from PR6 to PR4 and even a PR3. Google does not like them selling links. If you want to become a link partner with me drop me a line. Preferable PR2 – PR5. My 2 link directories are http://www.norlinks.com and http://www.link-directory.us
There’s a lot of change going on at Google and I think they’re slowly bringing in their new Latent Semantic Indexing algorithm into the picture. I think it’s a good thing. Firstly, because it means we can start focusing on quality writing and content at our websites, instead of having to layer keywords in. Secondly, because it means when I search for something I’m assured of finding the best the web has to offer. Google is doing nicely, I support their efforts to make the web cleaner (safer) and just a heck of a lot more useful. Already I see changes when I search for certain things I’ve searched for before – and the quality of the sites coming on top is certainly improving.
hello,
my page rank gets reduced suddenly…last month it has page rank 3 and now the page rank was 1..if you have some ideas on that please give your ideas..your post looks nice..thank u ….
Pagerank of many sites dropped drastically in the last PR update which happened in October 2007. I certainly think that there have been some major changes going on with google’s algorithm.
I have no idea what standard for them to give the page rank…?
Thanks for the information!
Don’t you think this is another result of a sudden change in the computation of PR? Some of my friends also experienced the same thing but somewhere out of their research, they found out that there was a sudden global change in the computation of PR. Some bloggers even justified why this has to be done. I lost my bookmarks and will have to search for such article again. I’ll show it to you one of these days.
The PR got no importance for an E-commerce site or a product site where as the number of backlink and traffic matters.
Hello Jim,
You written this article in april 28th 2007 ….. do you still think google use same alogo for pr as it used earlier…. nowadays lots of sites lost pr ..why this? what is changing inside….
Looking forward.
Ashwini
Thanks for article.I think new updates will come in this month.
a new update is coming soon I hope I want to see where my pages are at